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 Asunto: Re: Agudos y sobreagudos de Plácido Domingo
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Ja, ja, ja... ¡No, hombre, no...! Sólo es que necesitamos más espacio para explicarnos. Somos poco epigramáticos (podríamos decir) y tendemos a lo opulento, lo dadivoso y lo prolijo. Estamos más cerca de Falstaff, que de Scarpia (que sólo daba órdenes y gritaba), o de Calaf (que no soltaba prenda).

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 Asunto: Re: Agudos y sobreagudos de Plácido Domingo
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Cada uno escribe como puede y como le divierte; si no, participar en un foro sería un deber enojoso.
Mira que es difícil una cosa que parece tan fácil como trabar palabros uno detrás de otro.

De todas formas, la prolijidad a veces consigue milagros, como que te publique un libro la Oxford University Press:

Of the two antithetic terms in the Greek philosophy, one
only was real and self-subsisting; and that one was Ideal ;
Thought as opposed to that which it has to penetrate and
mould. The other, corresponding to our * Nature,' was in
itself phenomenal, unreal, without any permanent footing,
having no predicates that held true for two moments to-
gether; in short, redeemed from negation only by indwelling
realities appearing through. Nothing in itself, it was the
mere condition of manifestation to that which alone is real,
but else were latent. Hence, the Greek has no power of
resting in the conception either of mind without visible
organism, or of matter without mental expression. The one
was to them only a logical abstraction, a reality construed
back into its own empty possibility ; the other, a nonentity
to which we resort when we want to deny instead of to
aflirm, being. Their genius flew at once to form as the
indispensable means of fetching up reality into thought ; and
had recourse to matter only as the medium of form ; and
when it had served this purpose, they dismissed all else it
had to say to them into non-existence, as being nothing to
them. Nature therefore had no separate metaphysical
element for them ; take out of it the divine indwelling idea,
and nothing remained but the phenomenal flow of unreality.
The modern philosophy is in striking distinction from the
ancient on this point. Its Realism is not single, confined
to the intellectual pole of the universe ; but double, opposing
mind and matter as two substantive existences: the latter,
the basis of phenomena as they occur; the former, the
basis of phenomena as felt and known. We have no longer
the one divine intellect, constituting at once the meaning in
nature and the mind in man, and supplying the sole positive
existence and causality whether within us or without ; and
then, opposed to this, only the negation of being,
the blank realm without which causality would want a
theatre of self-display; but we hear of (i) the human intel-
lect, known to us as the ground of the thoughts we have,
(2) external Body as the ground of the attributes and
changes we observe; both equally real; neither before or
after the other; bearing the same fundamental relation to
the phenomena they issue; and having parallel rights to
recognition in their respective spheres. The materialism
which Plato opposed was accordingly quite different from
the system known in modern times under the same name.
Heracleitus resolved everything into the flow of perpetual
change, and denied all abiding existence ; and as he thus
provided no source whence change could come, and gave
a doctrine of motion with nothing to be moved, he laid his
system open to the refutation of Plato and Aristotle, that
he constituted everything out of nothing, and used the
negative element of the universe, — the mere condition of
its development, — as its positive equivalent There was
nothing in the prevalent doctrines of the time to prevent
Plato from describing what we should call matter by purely
privative terms, and treating it as being to reality in nature
what denial is to affirmation in logic from identifying all
causality with thought and assuming that to trace the
vestiges of dynamic action in the world was to follow the
steps of the divine intellect. On the other hand, modem
materialism, though often affecting to resolve everything into
phenomena, is penetrated throughout with the notion of
force and causation quite distinct from thought, and of body
as substantive existence removed from negation at least as
far as mind. With Descartes we enter upon the true era of
metaphysical dualism, in which philosophy, developing itself
from pure self-reflection, and no longer from h priori deduc-
tion, recognises and equipoises, as having parallel and
original rights, matter and mind, spiritual and corporeal
substance. Even where, as in Empedocles and his school,
we find among the Greeks the modern positive notion of
matter, it is not as the companion but as the substitute of
the positive notion of intellect ; and the only question was,
whether the one prindple out of which everything was to be
evolved should be regarded as corporeal or intellectual.
Monism constituted the universal assumption of the ancient
philosophy; the genius of the Ionic races leading them to
explain everything by deduction from the material of which
it is made ; while that of the Doric people resorted to the
determining power oi form ; the first tending to physical
atheism, the other to intellectual pantheism. At which-
ever end the primal reality was sought, the other was
contrasted with it as dependent and unreal.

Que se puede resumir en algo como: para los griegos la matería sólo tenía sentido cuando se expresaba y contenía en la forma, y la forma era insustancial si no transmitía e incorporaba la materia, mientras que, para cierto materialismo filosófico moderno, materia y forma son ambas realidades sustantivas.


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NICO escribió:
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Me están llamando plasta todos... :cry: :cry:
Mira: gakugeki te echa un cable y te descarga de presión. :P

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Si que aprieta la ola de calor...

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